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Family of John TIMMONS and Mary SIMMONS

Husband:	John TIMMONS (1740-1825)
Wife:	Mary SIMMONS (1753(?)- )
Children:	Ann TIMMONS (1765- )
	John TIMMONS Jr. (1767-aft1840)
	Susannah TIMMONS (1775- )
	William Henry TIMMONS (1770- )
	Simeon TIMMONS (1775-1834)
	Rev. Samuel TIMMONS (1777-1828?)
	Eliza TIMMONS ( - )
	Issac TIMMONS (1779-1846)
Marriage	"cir 1766"	Johnston County, NC

Husband: John Calvin(?) TIMMONS

Name:	John TIMMONS
Sex:	Male
Father:	Possibly, but NO EVIDENCE - John Calvin TIMMONS (1718?-1799)
Mother:	Possibly Elizabeth --?-- ( - )
Birth	1740?
Death	1825 (age 84-85)	Georgetown District-Now Florence County

Wife: Mary SIMMONS

Name:	Mary SIMMONS
Sex:	Female
Father:	NOT - Samuel DuPre SIMONS Jr. (1727- )
Mother:
Birth	1753?

Child 1: Ann TIMMONS

Name:	Ann TIMMONS
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	Lewis HARRELL (1752-1823)
Birth	1765

Child 2: John TIMMONS Jr.

Name:	John TIMMONS Jr.
Sex:	Male
Spouse:	Martha ALLAN (1775- )
Birth	1767	Effingham, SC
Death	aft 1840 (age 72-73)

Child 3: Susannah TIMMONS

Name:	Susannah TIMMONS
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	Moses BENTON ( -1816)
Birth	1775

Child 4: William Henry TIMMONS

Name:	William Henry TIMMONS
Sex:	Male
Spouse:	Lydia MORGAN (1784-1834)
Birth	1770	Georgetown District, SC
Death	"about 1802"

Child 5: Simeon TIMMONS

Name:	Simeon TIMMONS
Sex:	Male
Spouse 1:	Penelope BURNET ( -1845)
Spouse 2:	Sarah (HARRELL?) PERKINS ( - )
Birth	1775	Georgetown District
Death	Nov 1834 (age 58-59)

Child 6: Rev. Samuel TIMMONS

Name:	Rev. Samuel TIMMONS
Sex:	Male
Spouse:	Elizabeth BENTON (1784-1868)
Birth	1777	Georgetown District
Death	1828 (app) (age 50-51)
Occupation		Baptist Minister

Child 7: Eliza TIMMONS

Name:	Eliza TIMMONS
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	? CAINS ( - )

Child 8: Issac TIMMONS

Name:	Issac TIMMONS
Sex:	Male
Spouse:	Sarah DAVIS (1791-1867)
Birth	1779	Georgetown District - 1785?
Death	12 Jul 1846 (age 66-67)	Elizabeth Church, Mt. Croghan, SC

Note on Husband: John Calvin(?) TIMMONS

John is documented to have fought for Francis Marion at the Battle of Eutaw Springs (1782). Also Samuel, Thomas and Abner fought for the Swamp Fox. (Who is the Jesse Timmons on the Francis Marion Nov. 1779 roll?)  A cousin, Capt. John SIMMONS was killed in the Battle of Eutaw Springs and it is mistakenly written in several books as Capt. John TIMMONS.

Note that the will below says that this is John Senior. But in the Audited accounts (AA7816 page 7) Samuel calls John his brother. Also, Thomas in X1252, mentions John, with adjacent entry X1251 for Abner and X1253 for Samuel with the same date. Entries Z296 and Z297 for Samuel and John are adjacent and the same date, even though not in alphabetical order. These and other reasons, along with yDNA tests makes it possibly that this John's father is the John Timmons that had other sons of Samuel, Thomas, Moses and Abner?

DAR #0778251 accepted April 1997.

DAR #0827509 accepted July 2004

"History of South Carolina" Volume 4, by David Duncan Wallace, published by The American Historical Society, New York,

1932, page 457 says - "The founder of the Timmons family in America was a French Huguenot, according to tradition, and an officer of the French Navy. Though settled in Charleston, his son John was born in Virginia in 1740, but located in South Carolina, marrying Mary or Mollie Simmons of North Carolina."  However, Ydna Ysnp indicates that our Timmons came from England and was in Sedgley, 861, Staffordshire, England as far back as 1515.

On another page says this Mary SIMMONS is a French girl from North Carolina.

It goes on to positively identify this John TIMMONS as mine by listing his location and his sons. However, above this it

states "Daniel Jr. [MYERS]...married Francis SIMMONS, sister of Mary who married John TIMMONS."

From 1790 census - John Timmons, Georgetown, P. 52 Prince Fredericks Parish 3 Males 16 & up, 3 males under 16,

4 females, 6 Slaves

Revolution War Records entries for John and John Sr. See Pay Indent book X, at number 914 (under Francis Marion).

Also see The History of SC, Biographical, Vol. 1934 page 457. Owned all of Old Effingham, (Elim, SC) which is now

Florence County.

1800 Census, Marion District, Liberty locality, roll 49, page 456 (Handwritten page 801) John Sr. and John Jr.

Head of Household Free White Males Free White Females O S

M M M M M F F F F F t l

Age 9 15 25 44 Up 9 15 25 44 Up h a

TIMMONS JOHN Senr 0 1 2 0 1 .. 0 0 1 0 1 .. 0 9

TIMMONS JOHN Junr 1 0 0 1 0 .. 0 0 1 0 0 .. 0 1

WILL OF

JOHN TIMMONS SR.

The State of South Carolina)

Marion District ) In the Name of God Amen I John Timmons Senr

of the above mentioned State and District,

Being in Reasonable Health of Body and in my perfect mind Senses and mem-

mory of mind Thanks Be to God--for his Blefsing for the Same--Knowing that

it is appointed unto all Men once To die Most Humbly Recommend and Be-

queath my Soul to God from whence it came and Give my Body to the Earth,

Leaving my Funeral to the Discrefsion of my Executors in whom I make no

debt But the Same will be manageed discreetly Etc.----

As Touching my Wordly Goods and Chattles To which it hath pleased God to

Blefs me with, I now will and Bequeath in the following manner (To wit,

Item ed I will all my Just debts to Be paid though none of any Magnitude

Item 2d I give unto my wele Beloved Son John Timmons Jun., one young Negroe wo-

man Name Jean and her increase also one Negroe Girl Name Eley and her in-

crease though none yet Item 3d I give and Bequeath unto my Beloved Son

Samuel Timmons one young Negro Woman Name Jane & a Negro Girl Name Wiloby

Item 4th I give and Bequeath unto my Son Simeon Timmons a Negroe Woman

Named Minder with all her increase also a Negroe Boy Named Jack also a

Negro Boy amos Item 5th I give and Bequeath unto well Beloved Son Jon Isaac

Timmons--one Negroe Woman Name Phebe and ale her Increase and a Negroe

Woman named Denny with her Increase from this date- - also a Negroe Man

Abram also a Negroe man Name Harry Item 6d I give and Bequeath unto my

Beloved Grand Jofiah Harrels a Negro Girl Named Esther though per adventure

Should my Grand Son Jofiah Harrell Die without any heir of his Body then

the said Negro Girl is to return to the heirs of my Body again--7th Item

I give and Bequeath unto my four Grand Children which was the heirs of

Moses Benton - a Negro woman Named Nelah and her increase-also a Negro

man Named Georg-- Item 8th I give and Bequeath unto wele Beloved Grandsons/Sons

John Morgan and william James Timmons Sons of william Timmons Deceased a

Bed and Furniture apice after my Death 9th Item also I give and Bequeath

unto Elizabeth Cains the Daughter of Elizar Cains one Negroe Girl Named

mourning peradventurre Neverthelefs Should this Elizabeth Cains Die without

any Lawful Ishue of her own Body then the Negro Girl Mourning is to return

to the Heirs of my Body----Item 10th I will and Bequeath unto my Beloved

JOHN TIMMONS, SR.'S WILL PAGE 2

Son in law Lewis Harrell Sns., one Dolear peces. Item I further wile

and Bequeath unto my Beloved Sons Simeon and Isaac Timmons- Viz after my

Death to Isaac Timmons the plantation wheare I now reside with on Thou-

sand acres of Land Lying mostly on the Creek, and the Remainder of my

Land lying out Back from the Creek to my Son Simeon Timmons - also to my

son Isaac Timmons ale my Stock of Cattle---After my Death all my House

and Kitchen Furniture not after my Death---Before Mentioned with all the perishable prop-

erty to Be Equally Divided Between my four sons viz John Samuel Simeon and

Isaac Timons-- and do By these pressents appoint these presents above to

Be my last will and Testament and do hereby revoke all former wills in

my Name and do hereby these presents my Binding will and Bequeath and do

appoint my Two sons Simeon and Isaac Timmons Execrs as witnefs my hand

and Interchangeable Set and fix my Seal this- 17 day of February

(1818)

Signed Sealed and Deliverd)

in the presents of us) John Timmons (SEAL)

Solomon Perritt

Levi Burkett

Benjamin Turner

Recorded in Will Book 1, page 165

Recorded June 4, 1829.

Roll No. 778

Transcribed by Cynthia Fore Miller, 20 May 2001

from "South Carolina Will Transcripts, 1782-1868, (WPA 1934-1936)"

South Carolina Archives Microfilm No. M/9-17:

Also "Will: Probate Records of County Vol. II, by Utley and Smith, page 107 #778, John Timmons, Senior, will dated 17 Feb

1818 (per Captain John Timmons book by Kathy Dodge Loyd).

Happy Heritage says only one of the daughters survived, Susannah. Page 84.

GA Wills-

NICHOLAS HANNER, Planter, of White Bluff, 6/1/1791:7/8/1791, p. 57.

Wife: Elizabeth, formerly Mrs. Morgan widow. To: Ann Morgan, dau. of my wife. To:

Nicholas Hanner, Jr., Catherine Timmons, Elizabeth Buckholter. Mentions his plantation

called "Acton". Exrs: George Nunazer, John Poulen. Wits: Elizabeth Hanner, Catherine

Timmons, William Morgan, John Timmons.

"The Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution" by Moss, Page 933, lists Capt. John Timmons with a reference of the "Yearbook 1893". That Charleston City yearbook reprinted a 1886 list of Officers by DeSaussure. In it, on page 236 of the yearbook, it lists Capt. John Timmons with a reference of "Mill's Statistics South Carolina". In Statistics of South Carolina by Mills, 1826, page 627, in the Marion County section under Eminent Men, it says "Captain John Timmons, of Pedee, was a brave officer, and was killed at the Eutaws". Since, in the Audited Accounts, John Timmons swears that a fellow soldier that fought with him at the Eutaws was wounded and deserves compensation, and since he wrote a will in 1818, I assume that this is in error. Since Capt. John Simons was killed at the Battle of Eutahs, I assume that this all started with a mis-print.

Note on Wife: Mary (Sarah?) (Polly?) SIMONS

Sister of Francis Simmons who married Daniel Myers. "The Promised Land - The Eaddy Family" by Elaine Y. EADDY.

But is that true? Francis VILLAPONTEAUX had a Mary by her second husband, Daniel DuBOSE, but it is NOT this

Mary. It seems that this Mary is the daughter of Samuel SIMONS and his first wife. Question is, which is his first wife?

It may be Frances VILLAPONTEAUX, or may be an unknown CHINNERS.

One claim is that this Mary SIMMONS is a French Huguenot from North Carolina.

Note on Child 2: John TIMMONS Jr.

More research is needed to verify Virginia-SC Timmons relationships. We know from yDNA and Audited Accounts, that Abner, Samuel, Thomas, and Moses from Spartanburg, SC are the brothers of our John Timmons on Lynches River. There is also yDNA evidence verifying that a Timmons line in the Md, VA, DL area are related. There is circumstantial evidence that the father of these brothers in the Sgt. John Timmons (abt.1718-1799) of Shenandoah Valley Virginia. However, so far, none of the birth records in the Shenandoah Valley, that I have examined, have confirmed this (actually, I have found no Timmons birth records in any church record for this time period in Shenandoah Valley, but the Timmons stay there is well documented).

Also of interest is the record of SC land owned by the "old Mr. Timmings" while John Timmons (abt.1718-1799) was living in VA. These Early records are found in Anson County, NC. On 30 Aug 1753 Curtus Wood titled 300 acres on the south side of the Tyger River "Including an Improvement where old Mr. Timmings now lives Claimed by Stephen Holston beginning at a Maple at the mouth of a Branch on the River Bank Below Thomas Tamons's." (The Tygar River is a tributary of the Broad River.) Timmons/Timmings/Tamons appear to be the same person. In 1774, a chain of title was recorded saying that a resurvey of the border between North and South Carolina had determined that his land was in 96th District, SC. While most of the information is repeated in the chain, Timmings and Tamons were changed to read Timmons and "where old Mr. Timmings now lives" was changed to "where old Mr. Timmons formerly lived." So who is this "old Mr. Timmings"? 1750 is about the time Thomas Timmons was born in Virginia.

Additionally, in 1773, a John Timmons purchased 1000 acres of land from Francis Wilson on the Tyger River in South Carolina. 400 acres of land were granted to John and Thomas Timmons on Jack's Branch of the Pacolet River in 1767. Our John Timmons was granted land on Lynches River in 1769 and the Shenandoah Valley John Timmons was fighting in VA 1777-1779. So could the Shenandoah Valley John Timmons have been planning his move to SC and purchased the land on the Tygar River? Or is this "old Mr. Timmings" really the ancestor of the brothers that fought for Francis Marion.

Normally, we think of settlers moving up the rivers from the coast to settle SC. But there was a wagon trail along an Indian Trail, based on a Buffalo trail, that started in Philadelphia and came South through the Shenandoah Valley all the way to NC. On their 1775 "Map of the Most settled Parts of Virginia," Peter Jefferson and Joshua Fry said about the Great Valley Road "The Great Wagon Road from the Yadkin River through Virginia to Philadelphia distant 435 miles." (Planters and Pioneers: Life in Colonial Virginia by Parke, Jr. Rouse). The Yadkin River becomes the Pee Dee River in SC. But there are trails going from the Great Wagon Road leading to upstate SC.

1790 Census, Georgetown district, Prince Fredericks Parish page 52, John Timmons 3, 3, 4 - 6

? 1790 Census, Beaufort Page 11, Jno Timmons 1 male, 1 female, 13 slaves

1800 Census, Marion District, Liberty locality, roll 49, page 456 (Handwritten page 801) John Sr. and John Jr.

Head of Household Free White Males Free White Females O S

M M M M M F F F F F t l

Age 9 15 25 44 Up 9 15 25 44 Up h a

TIMMONS JOHN Senr 0 1 2 0 1 .. 0 0 1 0 1 .. 0 9

TIMMONS JOHN Junr 1 0 0 1 0 .. 0 0 1 0 0 .. 0 1

One source lists him as John Calvin TIMMONS III. But there are several places where he is called Jr. during his life.

Listed in 1840 census.

Note on Child 4: William Henry TIMMONS

Rev. ?

1790 Cenus, Georgetown District, P 56

1800 Census, Charleston District (different William?)

A Different Timmons, William Birth : CA 1770 South Carolina Death : CA 1845 Maury County, Tn.

Cullen, Hannah Birth : 1772 North Carolina Death : 1 FEB 1857

Marriage: 18 DEC 1794 in Rutherford County, N.C.

Children: Timmons, Squire Hamilton Esq.

Note on Child 5: Simeon TIMMONS

Will, Date 17 Feb 1818, Marion SC

1810 Census, Marion District, page 83

Children listed in Marion County Extracts of Equity Rolls # 245 by Utley.

Note on Child 6: Rev. Samuel TIMMONS

Pastor of old Elim Baptist Church, Effingham, SC until about 1823-4. Samuel performed funeral for his Mother Mary, and performed 2nd marriage ceromony for his Father. See Happy Heritage pages 99-100 for more.

1800 Census, Samuel Timmons, (Marion District), Beaufort District, Prince William, Roll 48, (M32) page 11

(Also has Thomas Timmons on line below)

Owned 1530 acres on West side of Pee Dee (according to law suit filed 3 Jan 1839 by oldest son Isaac R. Timmons against administrators William Timmons and his widow Elizabeth, extract in Marion County Extracts from Equity Rolls by Utley, #246 page 81.)

According to the Captain John Timmons Book by Dodge, Samuel was converted in the 1790's by a slave minister from the Ebenezer Church known as "Professor Moses". When Moses died in 1825 at the age of 100, Rev. Samuel paid tribute to the black clergyman.

Note on Child 8: Issac TIMMONS

Decendants of Captain John TIMMONS says born 2 Apr 1785.

Tombstone seems to say b. Apr. 2, 1785 d. Jun. 12, 1846.

Cemetery GPS Coordinates: Latitude: 34.7806, Longitude: -80.2131