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John TIMMONS's father: Samuel TIMMONS (1690?-aft1761)

Family of John Calvin TIMMONS and Elizabeth --?--

Husband: John Calvin TIMMONS (1718?-1799)
Wife: Elizabeth --?-- ( - )
Children: John Calvin(?) TIMMONS (1740-1825)
Samuel TIMMONS (1747?-1808)
Thomas TIMMONS ( -1785)
Leah TIMMONS ( - )
Rachael TIMMONS ( - )
Sarah TIMMONS ( - )
Nancy TIMMONS ( - )
Moses TIMMONS ( - )
Abner TIMMONS (1756?-aft1820)

Husband: John Calvin TIMMONS

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Name: John Calvin TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Father: Samuel TIMMONS (1690?-aft1761)
Mother: -
Birth 1718 (app) Frederick Co, VA
Death 1799 (age 80-81) Spartanburg Co, SC

Wife: Elizabeth --?--

Name: Elizabeth --?--
Sex: Female
Father: -
Mother: -

Child 1: John Calvin(?) TIMMONS

Name: John Calvin(?) TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Spouse 1: Mary (Sarah?) (Polly?) SIMONS (1753- )
Spouse 2: Anna BENTON ( - )
Birth 1740 Charleston, SC (?)
Death 1825 (age 84-85) Georgetown District-Now Florence County

Child 2: Samuel TIMMONS

Name: Samuel TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Spouse: Nancy --?-- (1751- )
Birth 1747 (app) Frederick Co, VA
Death 1 Jan 1808 (age 60-61) Mercer, KY

Child 3: Thomas TIMMONS

Name: Thomas TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Birth Joppa, MD
Death 1785 SC

Child 4: Leah TIMMONS

Name: Leah TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Spouse: Frances HOWELL ( - )

Child 5: Rachael TIMMONS

Name: Rachael TIMMONS
Sex: Female
Spouse: David GOODLETT ( - )

Child 6: Sarah TIMMONS

Name: Sarah TIMMONS
Sex: Female

Child 7: Nancy TIMMONS

Name: Nancy TIMMONS
Sex: Female
Spouse: Nathaniel STOKES ( - )

Child 8: Moses TIMMONS

Name: Moses TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Death Caldwell, KY

Child 9: Abner TIMMONS

Name: Abner TIMMONS
Sex: Male
Birth 1756 (app) Frederick Co, VA
Death aft 1820 (age 63-64) Hopkins Co, KY

Note on Husband: John Calvin TIMMONS

I can find no document evidence that this John is the father of the sons listed, but many accept this as being true. It is possible that the true father of these sons is the "old Mr. Timmings" who had land on the south side of the Tyger River that was first recorded in Anson County, NC, but was later found to be in SC.

 

John Timmons fought in the Viginia 8th and 12th Regiments for George Washington as Sergant. He enlisted in the Virginia 12th Regiment Dec 1, 1776 for 3 years and retired at about age 60 in Dec. 1779 from the Virginia 8th Regiment.

 

Publication Number: M246 Publication Title: Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783Publisher: NARAState: VirginiaMilitary Org: 12th RegimentDate Range: 1777-78 Folder: 299. One pay bill has a Peter Timmons in the same Col. Woods Company, 8th Regiment.

 

Publication Number: M804 page 19, Publication Title: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application FilesPublisher: NARA State: Virginia Veteran Surname Starts With: A Veteran Surname: Ashby Veteran Given Name: Peter Pensioner Surname: Ashby Pensioner Given Name: Winnifred Service: Va.Pension Number: R. 285. Names: A Ashby Frances Harman John Timmons Jesse Ashby George Timmons James Howell Winnifred Ashby Hannah Howell Jesse Ashby Thomas Ashley Lewis Robertson Peter Ashby Anna Robertson Henry Ashby Peter Ashby Frances Harman Daniel Ashby Anna Robertson Peter Ashby Thomas Ashley Isaac Harman.

 

Publication Number: M246 Publication Title: Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783Publisher: NARAState: VirginiaMilitary Org: 8th Regiment Date Range: 1778-79 Folder: 228, & 231.

 

Publication Number: M804 Publication Title: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files Publisher: NARAState: PennsylvaniaVeteran Surname Starts With: S Veteran Surname: StroupVeteran Given Name: John Pensioner Surname: Stroup Pensioner Given Name: Hannah Service: Penn. Residence Of Widow In 1855 Pension Number: B. L. Wt. 40923-160-55

 

Publication Number: M246 Publication Title: Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 Publisher: NARA State: Virginia Military Org: 4th, 8th and 12th Regiment (Consolidated)Date Range: 1778 Folder: 127

 

M881, Page 44, Pay Bill, Col. James Wood's Company, 8th Virginia Regiment, Muster Roll Nov. 1778, MiddleBrook, Dec 19, 1778, Enlisted Mar 2, 1777, Term of Service 3 yrs, Remarks: On Furlough. (Have image) The 8th Virginia Regiment was raised on January 11, 1776 at Suffolk Court House, Virginia for service with the Continental Army under the command of Peter Muhlenberg. The regiment was in the Battle of Brandywine (September 11, 1777), the Battle of Germantown (October 4, 1777) and the Battle of Monmouth 9fought in New Jersey on June 28, 1778. The main Continental Army under George Washington attacked the rear of the British Army's column.) The regiment was merged into the 4th Virginia Regiment on May 12, 1779.

 

Publication Number: M881 Publication Title: Compiled Service Records of Soldiers Who Served in the American Army During the Revolutionary War Publisher: NARA Date: 1775-1785 State: Virginia Regiment: Eighth Regiment Record Type: Individual Surname Starts With: T Surname: Timmons Given Name: John, page 22 Pay Bill, Capt. Stephen Ashby's Co of the 12th Virginia Regiment, Jan 1777, 1 month (Have image) The 12th Virginia Regiment was raised on September 16, 1776 at Williamsburg, Virginia for service with the (U.S.) Continental Army. The regiment was in the Battle of Brandywine (September 11, 1777), Battle of Germantown, Battle of Monmouth and the Siege of Charleston. (Most of the regiment was captured at Charlestown, South Carolina on May 12, 1780 by the British, but John was not in this Regiment at that time.

 

Publication Number: M881, page 40, Publication Title: Compiled Service Records of Soldiers Who Served in the American Army During the Revolutionary War Publisher: NARA Date: 1775-1785 State: Virginia Regiment: Eighth Regiment Record Type: Individual Surname Starts With: T Surname: Timmons Given Name: John. Pay Bill, 8th Regiment commanded by Col. James Wood, enlisted Mar 2, 1777 (Have Image, says Sgt.).

 

Publication Number: M881 page 6, Publication Title: Compiled Service Records of Soldiers Who Served in the American Army During the Revolutionary War Publisher: NARA Date: 1775-1785 State: Virginia Regiment: Eighth Regiment Record Type: Individual Surname Starts With: T Surname: Timmons Given Name: John, Pay Bill, Mar Apr May June 1777, Roll dated Aug 5 1777. Capt. Stephen Ashby's Co of the 12th Virginia Regiment, commissioned by Col. James Wood. (Does it say Capt.?)

 

Frederick County Order Book 4 (1751-1753) - 6 December 1752, FOB 4, p. 360The Right Honble Thomas Lord Fairfax Marquis Calmes and Thomas Bryan Martin Gent having returned that they have laid off the Road from the widow Woods mill to the Ferry Ordered that it be cleared according to the Return and John Timmons is hereby appointed overseer thereof and It is further Ordered that the Tithables formerly appointed to work on the same work under him as their overseer and that he keep the same in repair according to Law.

There are several records for John in the Order Books, the last is 6 November 1771.

There are many more records of this John Timmons (abt.1718-1799) in Virginia. John Timmons carried chain on the Brooke 1729 Shenandoah Tract survey. 5 The Shenandoah Valley is the right location for this John Timmons, and he could have "carried chain" at an early age. In old Frederick County VA at the October 1743 court, Samuel Timmons and others were ordered to work on a road from Blue Ball to "Asbies bent branch." (This is a reference to the Ashby family that had an association with the Timmons. Thomas Ashby owned over 1500 acres in the Shenandoah Valley and was a guide for 1736 surveys in the valley.)

Below are entries from William Allason's Shenandoah Store Day book in Winchester, VA (Frederick Co.), selected and transcribed by William E. Timmons as originally in "The Magazine of Virginia Genealogy", Vol. 34, No. 1, 2 & 3.

4 Nov 1761 Mr. Samuell Timons Dr

To 1/4 Rum 0.1.6

5 Nov 1761 Mr. John Timons p self & Wife

To 1 quart mug 0.1.3

To 2 pint mugs 1.3

To 1 Chamber pott 1.3

To 1/2 doz Delph plates 3.9

14 Nov 1761 Mr. Daniell Morgan for Mrs Timmons

And Mr. John Timmons p self & wife

To 2 Boull 0.1.3

To 2 ditto .8

To 1 ditto 1.3

To 1/2 doz Coffee Cups 2.6

To 2 Delph Dishes 4.

To 1 Milk Pott .7-1/2

To 2 Glass 1.3

To 1 Funell 1.

To 1/2 yd German Sarge 11.3

To 1 p. mens Shoes 6.0

3 Dec 1761 Mr. Samuell Timons p wife

To 1 Silk Hatt 12.6

4 Dec 1761 has John Timons listed three times but unclear what he purchased

except one item states "By 1 Load Goods from Fal [Falmouth, England]

9 Dec 1761 Mr. Samuell Timmons p self

To 5 yds Frize 1.1.3

To 1 yd Shalloon 2.8

To 3 yds Plaid 4.6

To 2 oz Collourd thread 1.3

To 3 doz big mettle buttons 7.6

To 1 doz small mettle buttons 1.3

To 2 Sticks Twist 1.3

To 1-1/2 yds German Sarge 11.3

To 1 hank Silk 1.0

To 1 Stick Twist .7-1/2

To 3-1/2 yds oznabrigs 3.6

11 Dec 1761 Mr. John Timmons p self

To Cash 5.10.1

To 1 Ivory Comb 1.

To 1 horn Comb .6

Same Date Mr. John Timmons p self

To 1/4 Rum 0.1.3

To 1 p Garters [no price given]

12 Dec 1761 Mr. John Timmons p self

To 1 p [?] so prity 0.2.0

16 Dec 1761 John Timmons p. Morgan

To 1/4 Rum 1.6

21 Dec 1761 Mr. Samuell Timmons p self

To 1 p womans Leather shoes 0.5.0

24 Dec 1761 Mr. John timmons p self

To 2 gallons Rum 0.12.0

To 1 doz needles 3.0

26 Dec 1761 Mr. John Timmons p son

To 1 Gallon Rum [no price]

Same date John Timmons p Redman

To 5 quarts Rum [no price]

1 Jan 1762 Mr. Samuel Timmons p self

To 1/2 lb pouder

7 Jan 1762 Mr. John Timmons p self & wife

To 2 Psalters 2.6

To 1 oz nuns thread 1.6

To 1 p. womans gloves 3.0

9 Jan 1762 Mr. John Timmons

To 4 Bushells Salt 2/6

To 2 Gallon molasses 3/6

13 Jan 1762 Mr. John Timmons p. self

To 1 Razour 0.3.6

To 1 Mortice Chizell 1.8

To 1/4 Rum 1.6

To 7 yds oznabrigs 7.0

Same date Mr. John Timmons p self

To 1-1/4 yd Cotton 2.11

16 Jan 1762 John Timmons p self

To 1 p. Shears 1/

To 1 Bagg Salt 18/6

20 Jan 1762 John Timmons p self

To 1/4 Rum 1/6

Same date John Timmons p self

To 2 sticks Twist 0.0.7-1/2

To 1 pocket Book 1/

24 Jan 1762 Samuell Timmons p John

Combs

To 1/4 Rum

 

There are also several entries in the store's day book for a Daniel Morgan. This is most likely the famous Brigadier General Daniel Morgan known for his victory at Cow Pens that was the turning point of the Revolutionary War. Rev. Benjamin Allen said that a Col. Morgan Morgan came from Pennsylvania to VA around 1726 and built the first cabin on the Virginia side of the Potomac6. (However, there is evidence of settlement as early as 1707.) Note the November 14, 1761 for Capt Nimrod Ashbey for Mrs Timmons and Mr. Daniell Morgan for Mrs Timmons. Also 16 Dec 1761 that says "John Timmons p. Morgan".

Note on Child 1: John Calvin(?) TIMMONS

John is documented to have fought for Francis Marion at the Battle of Eutaw Springs (1782). Also his brothers Samuel, Thomas and Abner fought for the Swamp Fox. (Who is the Jesse Timmons on the Francis Marion Nov. 1779 roll?)

 

Note that the will below says that this is John Senior. But in the Audited accounts (AA7816 page 7) Samuel calls John his brother. Also, Thomas in X1252, mentions John, with adjacent entry X1251 for Abner and X1253 for Samuel with the same date. Entries Z296 and Z297 for Samuel and John are adjacent and the same date, even though not in alphabetical order. These and other reasons, along with yDNA tests makes me believe that this John's father is the John Timmons that had other sons of Samuel, Thomas, Moses and Abner.

 

DAR #0778251 accepted April 1997.

DAR #0827509 accepted July 2004

 

"History of South Carolina" Volume 4, by David Duncan Wallace, published by The American Historical Society, New York,

1932, page 457 says - "The founder of the Timmons family in America was a French Huguenot, according to tradition, and an officer of the French Navy. Though settled in Charleston, his son John was born in Virginia in 1740, but located in South Carolina, marrying Mary or Mollie Simmons of North Carolina."

It goes on to positively identify this John TIMMONS as mine by listing his location and his sons. However, above this it

states "Daniel Jr. [MYERS]...married Francis SIMMONS, sister of Mary who married John TIMMONS."

 

From 1790 census - John Timmons, Georgetown, P. 52 Prince Fredericks Parish 3 Males 16 & up, 3 males under 16,

4 females, 6 Slaves

Revolution War Records entries for John and John Sr. See Pay Indent book X, at number 914 (under Francis Marion).

Also see The History of SC, Biographical, Vol. 1934 page 457. Owned all of Old Effingham, (Elim, SC) which is now

Florence County.

1800 Census, Marion District, Liberty locality, roll 49, page 456 (Handwritten page 801) John Sr. and John Jr.

Head of Household Free White Males Free White Females O S

M M M M M F F F F F t l

Age 9 15 25 44 Up 9 15 25 44 Up h a

TIMMONS JOHN Senr 0 1 2 0 1 .. 0 0 1 0 1 .. 0 9

TIMMONS JOHN Junr 1 0 0 1 0 .. 0 0 1 0 0 .. 0 1

 

WILL OF

JOHN TIMMONS SR.

The State of South Carolina)

Marion District ) In the Name of God Amen I John Timmons Senr

of the above mentioned State and District,

Being in Reasonable Health of Body and in my perfect mind Senses and mem-

mory of mind Thanks Be to God--for his Blefsing for the Same--Knowing that

it is appointed unto all Men once To die Most Humbly Recommend and Be-

queath my Soul to God from whence it came and Give my Body to the Earth,

Leaving my Funeral to the Discrefsion of my Executors in whom I make no

debt But the Same will be manageed discreetly Etc.----

 

As Touching my Wordly Goods and Chattles To which it hath pleased God to

Blefs me with, I now will and Bequeath in the following manner (To wit,

 

Item ed I will all my Just debts to Be paid though none of any Magnitude

Item 2d I give unto my wele Beloved Son John Timmons Jun., one young Negroe wo-

man Name Jean and her increase also one Negroe Girl Name Eley and her in-

crease though none yet Item 3d I give and Bequeath unto my Beloved Son

Samuel Timmons one young Negro Woman Name Jane & a Negro Girl Name Wiloby

Item 4th I give and Bequeath unto my Son Simeon Timmons a Negroe Woman

Named Minder with all her increase also a Negroe Boy Named Jack also a

Negro Boy amos Item 5th I give and Bequeath unto well Beloved Son Jon Isaac

Timmons--one Negroe Woman Name Phebe and ale her Increase and a Negroe

Woman named Denny with her Increase from this date- - also a Negroe Man

Abram also a Negroe man Name Harry Item 6d I give and Bequeath unto my

Beloved Grand Jofiah Harrels a Negro Girl Named Esther though per adventure

Should my Grand Son Jofiah Harrell Die without any heir of his Body then

the said Negro Girl is to return to the heirs of my Body again--7th Item

I give and Bequeath unto my four Grand Children which was the heirs of

Moses Benton - a Negro woman Named Nelah and her increase-also a Negro

man Named Georg-- Item 8th I give and Bequeath unto wele Beloved Grandsons/Sons

John Morgan and william James Timmons Sons of william Timmons Deceased a

Bed and Furniture apice after my Death 9th Item also I give and Bequeath

unto Elizabeth Cains the Daughter of Elizar Cains one Negroe Girl Named

mourning peradventurre Neverthelefs Should this Elizabeth Cains Die without

any Lawful Ishue of her own Body then the Negro Girl Mourning is to return

to the Heirs of my Body----Item 10th I will and Bequeath unto my Beloved

 

 

JOHN TIMMONS, SR.'S WILL PAGE 2

 

Son in law Lewis Harrell Sns., one Dolear peces. Item I further wile

and Bequeath unto my Beloved Sons Simeon and Isaac Timmons- Viz after my

Death to Isaac Timmons the plantation wheare I now reside with on Thou-

sand acres of Land Lying mostly on the Creek, and the Remainder of my

Land lying out Back from the Creek to my Son Simeon Timmons - also to my

son Isaac Timmons ale my Stock of Cattle---After my Death all my House

and Kitchen Furniture not after my Death---Before Mentioned with all the perishable prop-

erty to Be Equally Divided Between my four sons viz John Samuel Simeon and

Isaac Timons-- and do By these pressents appoint these presents above to

Be my last will and Testament and do hereby revoke all former wills in

my Name and do hereby these presents my Binding will and Bequeath and do

appoint my Two sons Simeon and Isaac Timmons Execrs as witnefs my hand

and Interchangeable Set and fix my Seal this- 17 day of February

(1818)

 

Signed Sealed and Deliverd)

in the presents of us) John Timmons (SEAL)

 

Solomon Perritt

Levi Burkett

Benjamin Turner

 

Recorded in Will Book 1, page 165

Recorded June 4, 1829.

Roll No. 778

Transcribed by Cynthia Fore Miller, 20 May 2001

from "South Carolina Will Transcripts, 1782-1868, (WPA 1934-1936)"

South Carolina Archives Microfilm No. M/9-17:

 

Also "Will: Probate Records of County Vol. II, by Utley and Smith, page 107 #778, John Timmons, Senior, will dated 17 Feb

1818 (per Captain John Timmons book by Kathy Dodge Loyd).

 

Happy Heritage says only one of the daughters survived, Susannah. Page 84.

 

GA Wills-

NICHOLAS HANNER, Planter, of White Bluff, 6/1/1791:7/8/1791, p. 57.

Wife: Elizabeth, formerly Mrs. Morgan widow. To: Ann Morgan, dau. of my wife. To:

Nicholas Hanner, Jr., Catherine Timmons, Elizabeth Buckholter. Mentions his plantation

called "Acton". Exrs: George Nunazer, John Poulen. Wits: Elizabeth Hanner, Catherine

Timmons, William Morgan, John Timmons.

 

"The Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution" by Moss, Page 933, lists Capt. John Timmons with a reference of the "Yearbook 1893". That Charleston City yearbook reprinted a 1886 list of Officers by DeSaussure. In it, on page 236 of the yearbook, it lists Capt. John Timmons with a reference of "Mill's Statistics South Carolina". In Statistics of South Carolina by Mills, 1826, page 627, in the Marion County section under Eminent Men, it says "Captain John Timmons, of Pedee, was a brave officer, and was killed at the Eutaws". Since, in the Audited Accounts, John Timmons swears that a fellow soldier that fought with him at the Eutaws was wounded and deserves compensation, and since he wrote a will in 1818, I assume that this is in error. Since Capt. John Simons was killed at the Battle of Eutahs, I assume that this all started with a mis-print.

Note on Child 2: Samuel TIMMONS

pdf file from David Mason

 

Possible related -

Publication Number: M804 page 8, Publication Title: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files Publisher: NARAState: New HampshireVeteran Surname Starts With: B Veteran Surname: Breed Veteran Given Name: John Pensioner Surname: [BLANK]Pensioner Given Name: [BLANK]Service: Mass N. H.Pension Number: S. 1234411 annotations have been added to this document.

John Breed

Lavwell Johnson

Ralph Robinson

J Reynolds

D Mc Pherson

Simon Meacham

Ralph Robinson

Simon Meacham

Ralph Robinson

Saml Timmons

Simon Meacham

Note on Child 9: Abner TIMMONS

Per David Mason.